We like to discuss our cluster politics openly

Some people are not very bright. Posting the url to the meeting you had, where you discussed cluster politics is not very wise. Specially if you forgot to +s the channel, so that anyone on the irc and who does a /list can find it.

This was found on some VenX alliance irc during r7, I belive.

Session Start: Fri Jun 07 21:00:09 2002
Session Ident: #dust
[21:00] *** Now talking in #dust
[21:00] H_Bozz> oi
[21:00] *** LordN has joined #dust
[21:00] H_Bozz> :)
[21:00] H_Bozz> no op?
[21:00] H_Bozz> =\
[21:00] *** Sun_Tzu has joined #dust
[21:00] FiRe> elo ;)
[21:00] *** FiRe sets mode: +ooo H_Bozz LordN Sun_Tzu
[21:00] Sun_Tzu> oooh.... de_dust?
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[21:00] Sun_Tzu> :D
[21:00] H_Bozz> lol Sun_Tzu
[21:00] *** H_Bozz sets mode: +o Tuhoaja|tennis
[21:00] Sun_Tzu> :P
[21:01] H_Bozz> oi Tuhoaja|tennis, played tennis all day? ;)
[21:01] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: +snti
[21:01] *** SirLorgaR changes topic to 'DONT SPEAK ABOUT THAT CHAN IN #tux'
[21:01] SirLorgaR> just dont
[21:01] SirLorgaR> will answer in some mins
[21:01] * Sun_Tzu nods
[21:01] LordN> .
[21:02] *** Crazyx has joined #dust
[21:02] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: +o Crazyx
[21:02] Crazyx> lo
[21:02] SirLorgaR> we will meet here
[21:02] Crazyx> ooh ok
[21:03] SirLorgaR> 6 is not much
[21:03] Sun_Tzu> hmm
[21:03] Sun_Tzu> well, you might have wanted to addvertise the meet a bit earlier ^^
[21:03] SirLorgaR> nm
[21:04] SirLorgaR> its just some infos u might want to know
[21:05] SirLorgaR> FiRe
[21:05] SirLorgaR> playa aint here
[21:05] SirLorgaR> fox aint
[21:05] SirLorgaR> spez is eating
[21:05] FiRe> well
[21:05] SirLorgaR> tuho playing
[21:05] LordN> bozz is
[21:05] FiRe> :)
[21:05] SirLorgaR> xtc didnt know :)
[21:05] SirLorgaR> but its ok
[21:05] LordN> bozz=fox,play
[21:05] LordN> lordN=tuh
[21:05] SirLorgaR> kk
[21:06] SirLorgaR> lets start?
[21:06] *** Mari0 has joined #dust
[21:06] SirLorgaR> who was that?
[21:06] SirLorgaR> guys?
[21:07] LordN> ?
[21:07] SirLorgaR> nm
[21:08] *** Sun_Tzu sets mode: +o Mari0
[21:09] Crazyx> i have to go :( :(
[21:09] H_Bozz> oi
[21:09] H_Bozz> nope
[21:09] H_Bozz> u dont
[21:10] H_Bozz> this is your real life, not that other crap
[21:10] Crazyx> have visit... arrived later then expected though
[21:10] H_Bozz> stay fs
[21:10] Crazyx> looooooool\
[21:10] H_Bozz> u got a visit here to!
[21:10] SirLorgaR> keep logging
[21:10] FiRe> ok
[21:10] FiRe> so some of us are here
[21:10] H_Bozz> yeh, the kernel <-- :)
[21:10] FiRe> i want everybody staying quiet while me and SirLorgaR speak plz guys
[21:10] FiRe> or i'll go -v-o+m :P
[21:10] FiRe> k ?
[21:10] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:11] H_Bozz> hmm
[21:11] Crazyx> i log everything
[21:11] *** H_Bozz sets mode: -ooo Crazyx LordN Mari0
[21:11] SirLorgaR> lol
[21:11] *** H_Bozz sets mode: -ooo H_Bozz Sun_Tzu Tuhoaja|tennis
[21:11] H_Bozz> =)
[21:11] FiRe> lol
[21:11] FiRe> tnx
[21:11] Sun_Tzu> hmm
[21:11] Sun_Tzu> can't +m without op ^^
[21:11] H_Bozz> just add +m when u want to
[21:12] H_Bozz> lol sunneh
[21:12] *** FiRe sets mode: +m
#dust Cannot send to channel
[21:12] FiRe> so, there are several issues
[21:12] SirLorgaR> if u stay silent ..
[21:12] FiRe> they are ;)
[21:12] FiRe> 1. is a leak from our galaxy
[21:12] FiRe> the leak is waqer
[21:12] FiRe> so, we try to avoid having him here atm
[21:12] FiRe> he has forest and yet some fltf
[21:12] SirLorgaR> thats the reason for the 2nd chan
[21:13] FiRe> friends in our cluster
[21:13] FiRe> thanks to him, our galaxy is considered almost friendly to fltv
[21:13] FiRe> as they think we'll switch sides
[21:13] FiRe> but, also thanks to him fltv know much about us (i don't know what exactly tho)
[21:13] FiRe> 2. Our cluster alliance
[21:14] wait with point 2.
[21:14] FiRe> ok ;)
[21:14] FiRe> u speak
[21:14] SirLorgaR> i want u not to talk about that in #tux
[21:14] SirLorgaR> u see
[21:14] SirLorgaR> Frosty isnt invited either
[21:14] SirLorgaR> thats cause they are good RL friends
[21:14] SirLorgaR> Mari0 too, but we can trust him in that
[21:14] SirLorgaR> dont know about Frosty atm
[21:14] SirLorgaR> will find it out
[21:15] SirLorgaR> sorry
[21:15] SirLorgaR> 2.
[21:15] SirLorgaR> ..
[21:15] FiRe> ok
[21:15] FiRe> 2. Cluster Alliance
[21:15] FiRe> i am a supposed HC of real27 - bullshit
[21:15] FiRe> it's a nap
[21:15] FiRe> which won't supposingly last long
[21:15] FiRe> we have our newx cluster alliance
[21:15] FiRe> channel
[21:16] FiRe> on PA net which is #thespiritwithin
[21:16] FiRe> i want absolutely all of you to be there
[21:16] FiRe> with your real nicks
[21:16] SirLorgaR> tell me when u r ready
[21:16] FiRe> sure
[21:16] FiRe> next
[21:16] FiRe> BetrayerOfHope
[21:16] FiRe> is dealing with furgions in our cluster
[21:17] FiRe> we have 5 newx galaxies + 2 CAT galaxies
[21:17] FiRe> and 10 furgion
[21:17] SirLorgaR> one of the cats is mainly furgion
[21:17] FiRe> + 1 furgion galaxy is a big mistake of them (as they are newx)
[21:17] FiRe> SirLorgaR, that makes 3 CAT
[21:17] SirLorgaR> ok
[21:17] FiRe> we have a good info source in their c-ally
[21:18] FiRe> which is armaggedon
[21:18] FiRe> Furgions will kick their inactive galaxies from c-ally
[21:18] FiRe> we will roid them ;)
[21:18] FiRe> SirLorgaR, i'm out of speach ;)
[21:18] SirLorgaR> k
[21:18] SirLorgaR> back to BetrayerofHope
[21:18] SirLorgaR> he fixed the NAP today
[21:19] SirLorgaR> crazyx got the list
[21:19] SirLorgaR> guess everyone knows already how to watch it
[21:19] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:19] SirLorgaR> !info 27:01 for example
[21:19] SirLorgaR> furgions dont know him beeing Betrayerofhope
[21:19] SirLorgaR> he used a fake nick
[21:19] SirLorgaR> and is speaking for WenX in that matter
[21:20] SirLorgaR> !info 27.01 for example <-- sorry
[21:20] SirLorgaR> thats it for me
[21:20] SirLorgaR> 3.
[21:20] SirLorgaR> ..
[21:20] FiRe> 3. I suppose is our future plans, right ?
[21:20] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:21] FiRe> or prophecy ?
[21:21] SirLorgaR> dont care
[21:21] FiRe> prophecy then ;)
[21:21] SirLorgaR> make future plans
[21:21] SirLorgaR> ^^
[21:21] FiRe> ok ok
[21:21] FiRe> Future plans
[21:21] FiRe> a. we want to capture roids before people have ships
[21:22] FiRe> b. we want to capture roids in our cluster that otherwise will belong to furgions
[21:22] FiRe> i.e. roid random galaxies
[21:22] SirLorgaR> (random galaxies not in that list)
[21:22] FiRe> for that i want all of you start building ships in small amounts continuing initiating
[21:23] FiRe> our first official raid is sunday ?
[21:23] SirLorgaR> saturday
[21:23] SirLorgaR> but with small amounts of ships
[21:23] SirLorgaR> just some n00b gals to test it
[21:23] SirLorgaR> get a few pods
[21:23] SirLorgaR> some fi or co
[21:23] SirLorgaR> and we try it tomorrow night
[21:23] SirLorgaR> but still go on initiating roids
[21:24] SirLorgaR> some questions till now?
[21:24] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: -m
[21:24] Sun_Tzu> nothing much, do we expect these n00bs to have co?
[21:24] SirLorgaR> not really
[21:24] Sun_Tzu> or can I concentrate on beetles
[21:24] H_Bozz> umm.. do we expect them to have roids at all? :P
[21:24] Sun_Tzu> lol bozz
[21:24] H_Bozz> Sun_Tzu, have some spiders.. just in case.. they also target fi.. :)
[21:25] SirLorgaR> we expect them to have roids
[21:25] SirLorgaR> and we expect not everyone taking part
[21:25] Mari0> btw how many pods should i build?
[21:25] Mari0> ~15
[21:25] SirLorgaR> around that
[21:25] Sun_Tzu> 9 pods takes 15% on a 60 roid planet
[21:26] Sun_Tzu> so not much more than that, 15 max imho
[21:26] SirLorgaR> k .. other questions?
[21:26] LordN> hmm
[21:26] LordN> wondering would it be profitable to join some ppl to furgion and roid cat in beginning
[21:26] LordN> until cluster is secure
[21:26] LordN> and we can come back
[21:26] H_Bozz> hmm
[21:26] * LordN doesn't trust furgion at all
[21:27] H_Bozz> nope, I dont neighter..
[21:27] H_Bozz> could maybe join legends..
[21:27] H_Bozz> if u want me to
[21:27] SirLorgaR> no
[21:27] SirLorgaR> will come to that l8
[21:27] SirLorgaR> l8er
[21:27] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: +m
[21:27] SirLorgaR> FiRe
[21:27] SirLorgaR> ..
[21:28] FiRe> [15:23] <@Frosty> when meetings starts can anyone pm so i will see it flashing <- not good, i hate it when we can't trust our own ppl
[21:28] SirLorgaR> well
[21:28] FiRe> ok
[21:28] FiRe> prophecy - nothing much to say
[21:28] FiRe> our sisteralliance
[21:28] SirLorgaR> u have to decide on frosty
[21:28] FiRe> we rawk ;)
[21:28] FiRe> they like it
[21:29] FiRe> like, ,they are impressed by us
[21:29] FiRe> and it means we'll be protected
[21:29] FiRe> i want everyone to be on #prophecy
[21:29] FiRe> if you aren't added yet, plz pa-mail me
[21:29] FiRe> asap
[21:29] SirLorgaR> everyone is
[21:29] FiRe> prophecy stands before alliances
[21:29] FiRe> as well as our c-ally
[21:30] FiRe> we'll be attacking with them
[21:30] FiRe> atm, nothing much is set up there
[21:30] FiRe> as nothing much to do ;)
[21:30] SirLorgaR> another sisterhood ally
[21:30] SirLorgaR> may be set up
[21:30] SirLorgaR> not sure atm
[21:30] SirLorgaR> lordN got us in contact with such a project
[21:31] SirLorgaR> will discuss that on a l8er meeting
[21:31] FiRe> right
[21:31] FiRe> now next chapter ?
[21:31] SirLorgaR> our order for defence
[21:31] SirLorgaR> should be
[21:32] SirLorgaR> Gal > Friends > Prophecy > (new sisterhood) > Ally > c-ally
[21:32] FiRe> not really
[21:32] SirLorgaR> with friends i mean friends that help u and u can trust them
[21:32] SirLorgaR> next one FiRe
[21:32] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:32] FiRe> i'd say gal > friends > c-ally > proph > alliance
[21:32] FiRe> there are several reasons
[21:33] SirLorgaR> maybe with that cluster yes
[21:33] FiRe> c-ally before ally and proph is because
[21:33] FiRe> we need to keep it working
[21:33] FiRe> to be stronger than furgions
[21:33] FiRe> in our cluster
[21:33] SirLorgaR> ok then :)
[21:33] SirLorgaR> next chapter
[21:33] FiRe> 5. General
[21:33] FiRe> you guys all doing great
[21:33] FiRe> :)
[21:33] FiRe> we're #1 in cluster
[21:34] FiRe> let's keep it this way
[21:34] SirLorgaR> i want everyone to get an ally
[21:34] FiRe> b. don't tell anyone who are we etc
[21:34] FiRe> c. get an alliance - everyone !
[21:34] FiRe> d. this chan will be registred
[21:35] FiRe> and everyone but waqer (donno yet about frost) have to be on both chans
[21:35] FiRe> (i know you hate those multiple channels)
[21:35] FiRe> e. i am HC in Lithyn/NoS, and speznas from now on is our BC
[21:35] SirLorgaR> about waqer again
[21:35] SirLorgaR> sorry FiRe
[21:35] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:36] FiRe> so, we'll be helping a lot our galaxy in defense
[21:36] FiRe> i'm done i think :(
[21:36] FiRe> err
[21:36] FiRe> :)
[21:36] SirLorgaR> about waqer again
[21:36] FiRe> the log will be put up on my shell ;)
[21:36] FiRe> yes SirLorgaR ;)
[21:36] SirLorgaR> we will monitor him
[21:36] SirLorgaR> as good as we can
[21:37] SirLorgaR> FiRe told him to keep quite and dont talk to his friends
[21:37] SirLorgaR> atm
[21:37] SirLorgaR> we will use him for propaganda
[21:37] SirLorgaR> if we dont hear anything from our spys in armageddon
[21:37] SirLorgaR> we might be able to trust him again
[21:38] SirLorgaR> will see
[21:38] SirLorgaR> dont speak about that in #tux
[21:38] SirLorgaR> thx
[21:38] FiRe> and last one
[21:38] FiRe> WE WON"T CHANGE SIDES
[21:38] FiRe> ;)
[21:38] FiRe> KEEP UR HEAD UP, NEVER GIVEUP
[21:38] SirLorgaR> would be our death if we do
[21:38] FiRe> moral and phisical ;)
[21:39] SirLorgaR> thx for beeing here
[21:39] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:39] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: -m
[21:39] LordN> fire, we change if needed aka we get hitted inc. i ain't playing kamikaze, noticed that in r4
[21:39] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: +ooo Crazyx H_Bozz LordN
[21:39] *** SirLorgaR sets mode: +ooo Mari0 Sun_Tzu Tuhoaja|tennis
[21:39] LordN> we can't win inc war ever, without loosing all chances to top30 gal position
[21:39] SirLorgaR> newx will target our c
[21:39] LordN> so i ain't going to play mad man via loyalty if it comes to that, i'll get us nap by joining furgion or something
[21:40] LordN> lorgar, i hope they do it soon
[21:40] SirLorgaR> in order to keep furgion on bottom
[21:40] FiRe> LordN
[21:40] FiRe> listen
[21:40] LordN> we got 10 fltv gals here, if they keep them down np
[21:40] FiRe> furgions do not change sides
[21:40] FiRe> and that makes them lose honourably
[21:40] FiRe> last round
[21:40] FiRe> if we are in shit
[21:40] FiRe> with war
[21:40] FiRe> don't lose your ships
[21:40] LordN> so long as it's not inc war
[21:40] LordN> i'll play loyally
[21:40] FiRe> and we always will be able to strike back
[21:41] LordN> but i don¨'t play inc war ever
[21:41] LordN> if it can be avoided
[21:41] FiRe> we won't lose our inc war
[21:41] LordN> we might not loose
[21:41] LordN> but we will loose chances to top30
[21:41] LordN> and that's what i care
[21:41] FiRe> as this cluster is very important
[21:41] FiRe> for fltv
[21:41] FiRe> it will be hit from outside
[21:41] LordN> c9 was won by xeta/fos
[21:41] FiRe> often
[21:41] LordN> but biggest gal wasn't in top50 even
[21:41] FiRe> and yet they will be afraid to go into cluster war
[21:42] FiRe> as it means damage for both sides
[21:42] LordN> yeps, that's what i'm counting as everyone
[21:42] SirLorgaR> just keep in front of fltv
[21:42] LordN> i hope there ain't idiot leading fltv in this cluster though
[21:42] SirLorgaR> and keep the nap going
[21:42] SirLorgaR> atm it looks like fltv gals here are mostly 1/2 active gals
[21:42] SirLorgaR> 2-3 active ones
[21:42] SirLorgaR> keep monitoring them
[21:43] LordN> how about our friends?
[21:43] Sun_Tzu> hey, anyone know if strett is xan?
[21:43] SirLorgaR> our friends are quite active
[21:43] SirLorgaR> if u count us 5 gals
[21:43] LordN> strife is wp if u mean him, and strett was ely atleast
[21:43] Sun_Tzu> he's idling in the chan and I've got no info on his ally since he dropped Tsu for the 3rd time
[21:43] SirLorgaR> that makes 5*15= 75 ppl and 30 ppl in c ally chan
[21:43] SirLorgaR> and not even all of us there
[21:43] SirLorgaR> we ARE active
[21:44] SirLorgaR> we just need to add everyone
[21:44] SirLorgaR> whats still not done
[21:44] SirLorgaR> but doing atm
[21:44] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:44] LordN> anyways don't worry about me changing sides, i'll stay loyal until the first inc hit comes if it comes and even then i'll bring it up
[21:44] * LordN doesn't change sides without notifying
[21:45] SirLorgaR> normal incomming wont beat us
[21:45] SirLorgaR> if its mass incs at once
[21:45] LordN> yeps and if they beat us nm
[21:45] LordN> we went trough 2 weeks of incoming
[21:45] LordN> last rounds start in dwarfs
[21:45] LordN> and still managed 3th position
[21:45] SirLorgaR> if we constantly keep attacking
[21:45] LordN> though we had to climb only 90-100 ranks
[21:46] SirLorgaR> and retaling on incs
[21:46] SirLorgaR> it should bring us to top
[21:46] LordN> hmmm retalling....
[21:46] LordN> not ourselfs i hope
[21:46] LordN> we tryed it last round, and result was swap the roid
[21:46] SirLorgaR> ?
[21:46] SirLorgaR> heh
[21:47] LordN> doesn't work, better keep on going as normal and ask allies to hit it
[21:47] LordN> and it's c
[21:47] FiRe> well
[21:47] FiRe> i'll be asking newx to hit c27 a lot ;)
[21:47] LordN> yeps same here
[21:47] LordN> 10 fltv gals
[21:47] FiRe> LDK+Prophecy+RedBull
[21:47] LordN> same cluster
[21:47] FiRe> should make it
[21:47] LordN> is very good target
[21:48] LordN> i'll ask pcm and jurgen
[21:48] Mari0> :)
[21:48] LordN> so wp and nos from there
[21:49] *** Speznaz has joined #dust
[21:49] *** FiRe sets mode: +o Speznaz
[21:49] Speznaz> g`day
[21:49] Mari0> lo
[21:49] FiRe> H_Bozz
[21:49] SirLorgaR> u missed everything
[21:49] FiRe> d'u log it ?
[21:49] FiRe> :)
[21:49] FiRe> SirLorgaR, i'll put up a log
[21:49] SirLorgaR> jep
[21:49] SirLorgaR> in this topic
[21:50] SirLorgaR> and i logged it too i think
[21:50] FiRe> right
[21:50] SirLorgaR> :)
[21:50] FiRe> send it to fire@e-apollo.lv plz
[21:50] LordN> fire btw are u going to scan soon?
[21:50] * LordN looks at yer roids'
[21:50] FiRe> LordN, no ;)
[21:50] FiRe> not much
[21:50] SirLorgaR> k, didnt log
[21:50] SirLorgaR> forgot to activate it
[21:50] SirLorgaR> ^^
[21:50] LordN> k, u can use paste btw lorgar
[21:50] LordN> it's still there
[21:51] LordN> just set it to txt file or to word
[21:51] SirLorgaR> I'm not going to paste
[21:51] SirLorgaR> Crazyx logged it anyways
[21:51] LordN> k
[21:51] FiRe> H_Bozz has it all i spose ;)
[21:51] SirLorgaR> Mari0
[21:51] SirLorgaR> hope we can really trust ya :)